RE: RE: Is Christmas a pagan celebration? (Part 2)
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RE: Is Christmas a pagan celebration? (Part 2)

RE: Is Christmas a pagan celebration? (Part 2)

I don’t know how old earth is either and I’m very open minded about everything. Think you are as well, that’s why I’m writing all of this. (Just a note that open kindness sometime s used to hide biasses)

I haven’t come across that interpretation about the millions of years. The chaos and fallen angels are quite clear in the scriptures thought. But another thing that is clear is the lineage from Adam to Noah. And it’s about 2 to 3000 years.

There is strong evidence and solid arguments for the Sphinx to be there before Egyptian culture. However, we have the lineage of Pharos and so on… plus external references for Egypt and their “growth”, it all checks out, the historic and history sciences methods. It also checks with scripture since it would be after the flood, 5 to 6000 years ago. And the fact that the Arc landed in more turkey. (This is not in scripture, but it’s all over tradition and even historians, it seems it was common knowledge back then) But it would match with the “first” civilisations beginning near there.

yeah, I think the sun being smaller is pure speculation. Plus, if the sun was not exactly how/ were he is, life on earth could had not began. But haven’t looked much into it.

Yes, there are many people who say the calendar is a bit off, for a few years. aid enough I must say. Some people say the 2030 date, that we hear so much would be the 2k years of the crucifixion, in case it was wrong.

For sure we can get the planets alignments down to an inch. It’s clockwork. My point was, not sure how that’s relevant for the day of the birth. the only thing would be the start in the sky, but when planets align, the stars remain the same.

(Having said that, we have the exact lighted of many Bishops and all the Popes since S. Peter. All the exact dates and so on, until the 4th century. And form then on, there is no controversy.)

Yeah, I liked Davinci code, saw the movie a few times and a couple years re watched the trilogy. It’s interesting and captivating. But it’s a full on propaganda piece for the “big narrative” of “chaotic bad” and Jesus was just a man. Both of them are at the root of all the anti Christian believes. Juts look into Dan Brown, all his associations and believes, his goals. And you can go much further back, lie H wells and Voltaire and so on…

I think the book of Enough was discovered quite recently no? But also, there where a lot of forgeries form the get go. And it continues, like you said the other one, tries to infiltrate and invert everything. But the 66 book, it’s the protestant one, right? The original bible has 73.

Muslims, are not pagan and they don’t have the “sola fide” believe either, nor jews not even some protestants. I’m not comfortable discussing scripture and doctrine at this point.

But having said that, you know Luther changed the bible right? He famously said “I can (change it) because I want to” And like magic he changed it, to fit the “you can (and should, he said) sin all you want) Changed passages of the Hail Mary, so protestants would not recognise the prayer in the scriptures…

And another point that people forget is that the Bible is a Catholic book. If it wasn’t for them fighting like crazy against all enemies from outside and within. From their society and invaders… we would not have a bible, nor even Christianity. Now that’s something to think about. Once Europe was a bit more stable and less in dangerous, Luther shows up with a lot of support.

But, I’ll just end saying, if it was all a scam of Constantine in the consul of Nicea, then they would altered it, to fit their doctrine no?

You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. (James 2:24)

Everyone assumes that Constantine and so on… changed it. It’s just a fake assumption, he have proof that it wasn’t. But with Luther, that’s a historic fact and yet Dan brown does not mention it in the DV code.

Yeah that book is amazing, I totally recommend it, for anyone who wants to understand the world a bit better.

I’ll recommend another one about Luther. Like the Ancient city, it has all the sources. Undisputed legit sources. Even Lutherans don’t deny them. Just try to ignore it.

Here’s the archive version ;)

https://archive.org/details/factsaboutluther00ohar/page/362/mode/2up

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