Apparently when we edit our comments it moves them up to the top of the Recent Replies list on Steemit.
Yes, I discovered that too myself; helps with navigating.
Yet Steemit is lacking so many features such as the ability to quote or copy+paste a message, so that you could have for example copy+pasted my table rather than manually retyping it (although yours is rendered more compactly because Steem’s markdown table rendering is fugly (‘tubular’ and ‘fugly’ both originate from culture of GenerationX in the USA in the 1970s).
As far as I can tell, I've read through your latest edits and links.
But you’ll need to re-read one that (I noticed you upvoted to signify to me that) you had read it because…
Pretty much there by the look of it, barring a sudden eureka! moment or inspired external contribution.
Announcing the name ideas Funkybits, Vidbits, and Trove (or perhaps favor branding Funkybit, Vidbit, Trovve, or Trovv with funkybits.__, vidbits.__, and trove.__ domains also active to capture those who spell it either way). Bring back a modicum of pizzazz and creativity to the proposed music+video name! Trove isn’t without problems though because Trovit was already widely branded and so many variants of ‘trove’-like names such as Trovie, Trovy, etc.. And the name Trove isn’t as playful, catchy, video+personally-published focused as the name Youtube or even the defunct Vidme. Funkybits is very playful and brandable, but is it too zany? Yet people like unusual, off-the-wall, humorous, and groovy music and videos. And I noticed that Metacafe is focusing on Instagram’s/Vine’s shortform vlogging and 9GAG et all on zany or humorous videos. I don’t think the name Funkybits pigeonholes to only shortform, although it indicates shortform and instant fun abounds. Ditto as applied to music.
I just realized that Vimeo is vide-me-o. I forgot to put Vube of my list in the blog, but that just goes to show that copying the ‘tube’ meme is not good branding.
Recorded is just so boring when I’m imagining Millennials mentioning it to their friends (and the abstract association to immutability and lack of centralized censorship isn’t going to be conveyed instinctively to most people). The concept of treasures being precious also I guess abstractly implies protecting them against harm or theft (i.e. immutability). So I got to thinking and my current paths of thought (e.g. starting from ‘tomes’ of media) lead me right back to the domain name I had purchased in 2016. However, I do like the professionalism of Recorded and additionally refer to what I wrote in my prior (recently edited) comment:
But Jot doesn’t associate with voice or video discussion, but maybe that is okay because perhaps that capabilities should go under Recorded any way (although if we choose Trove the name is less appropriate for recorded audio that isn’t published) and then have interoperability between the two apps.
Thus perhaps we should retain Recorded (but not Recordegg) for audio and video which is not for publishing to gain an audience of fans and use Trove for the media published/promoted to a public audience? Although too many names is confusing. The reasons for the names separate from the overarching project name Cred:
- allow for multiple competing apps even within the same category
- a brandable name to drive more adoption
(rather than funnel everything through one name because one size doesn’t fit all)
Thus there’s no justification for the separate Recorded and Trove names if all its functionality of the one for non-published media is going to be seamlessly integrated into other apps such that there’s no reason to visit a separate recorded.__ app or website.
So I don’t have a clear decision yet. The filipinas in my household and my 19 year old daughter in the USA like Funkybits. My daughter also likes Trove.
I think that would be a popular feature, but I'm trying to work out the relevance of "egg" in Recordegg.
Easter eggs are rewards and nuggets of treasure we go hunting for and collect them in a basket.
Trove is a collection of treasures.
Also, together with Recorded, they both have three syllables when I thought you preferred no more than two.
Perhaps that’s another disadvantage of Recorded compared to Trove, but other factors must also be weighed. The #1 music site Pandora has three syllables. Click to that listing of music sites and imagine where Recorded or Trove would rank merely in terms of naming?
All the keys for typing ‘recorded’ are adjacent to each other except for the ‘o’. That makes for quicker typing for unskilled typists.
Also I have added the variant Recorda and even Record is a possibility if we decide later we want two syllables and want to aim for a much more expensive .com (asking $3 million and valued at roughly $512,000). I was able to register record.im and recordim.com, so we could even start with Record if we prefer. I was originally thinking the past tense is appropriate since the function of the site is hosting already recorded media, not aiding in the recording of it. But in terms of branding maybe the shorter form works. Record is both a noun and a verb, but the noun probably associates more to criminal record or archaic vinyl music record than to a general record in a file or ledger. And the advantage of Record compared to Recorda and Recorded is that record.com is clearly not in use.
Incidentally, as videos couldn't be deleted, what would be the situation regarding clearly repugnant material (subjective, I realise) that, say, encouraged terrorism, paedophilia etc; an interim period (like with Steem's seven days' editing window) before it's locked?
Actually nothing is ever deleted from the blockchain. The 7 days is a policy of the Steemit client to not display what is still stored on the blockchain.
As for content that violates some law or social norms, I had already solved that design problem in a decentralized manner. But I don’t want to tell you yet, because it is one of my secrets that I don’t want the competing projects to copy before we release. Hint: the ledger only stores cryptographic hashes not the actual data. Those hashes are never deleted but the data that corresponds to a hash can stop being available if no entity is willing to serve a copy.
On reflection, I think I was perhaps a little hasty in dismissing Immortal. I've never been much of a gamer, so couldn't at first appreciate the possible appeal of the name. I've investigated a bit since.
Agreed I still like Immortal and will pursue it. But is it better than Trove for videos, music, or games? We could still choose to have a separate name for music and videos.
Btw, is there a cut-off time-wise looming for making a final decision on naming?
I want this out of my hair so I can focus on the technical work.
P.S. I spent $175 each to register cred.app and grok.app today in the priority EAP1 because the Cred mobile app (given it’s the token and overarching name) will be very important and I expect Google may grant some privileges in their Playstore for apps with a .app link. And we only had grok.fyi, grokfyi.com, grok.one, and grok.network, so I could justify that expenditure to obtain a higher quality TLD for Grok because none of the other higher quality TLDs are available for registration.
Note the domains jot.app, trove.app, immortal.app, and record.app were gone during stage 1 or stage 2 of the EAP at a cost of several $1000s each. So those are very highly demanded names.
1 …rather than risking someone else get them if I went into the lottery at $15 cost each after 3 more days which is very high demand for 4 letter domains which are dictionary words.
EDIT: after sleeping I think if we choose separate names for music and video apps, then Funkybits is best for the music only and is better IMO than JAMBOX. The video-only choice is more muddled for me:
- Trove is the most concise, generic, and implies value.
- Recorded is more specific yet all encompassing, professional, but maybe less catchy.
- Vidbits is specific to shortform videos, catchy, associates to Bitcoin.
- Credtube very specific but promotes Youtube yet positively associates to the Cred brand and token.
Given Credtube is punting on building a brand for videos (builds only the Cred and Youtube brands) and the problems with Trove2, I may prefer Recorded or Vidbits although I’m undecided if I really like these choices.
If we choose the same name for both music and videos then the choices are: Recorded or Trove. There’s a strong case to be made that music is more enjoyable when accompanied by a video, so perhaps we shouldn’t separate the two categories. In terms of qualities of names I equate Recorded with #2 audio site SoundCloud and Trove with #1 music site Pandora. Yet both of my name ideas are generic enough for a convergence with video.
2 The variants of ‘trove’ domains being overlapping, confusing, trove.com perhaps being difficult to obtain, and that for me the name feels lost in a sea of bland names without a strong association to videos. I think it will be more difficult to brand it and make it stand out. Doesn’t virally brand itself and will require expenditure on attention. Also the meaning isn’t that compelling. Everyone knows there’s nuggets of treasure on video sites, but what’s different about this one? And is it even for videos? However, if successfully branded, it’s concise and eloquent.
EDIT#3: I added Stor as the name idea for storage. Also after further thought, I think everyone wants one immutable place to store everything in their life and not dozens of different sites they have to deal with for storing different things. Thus I’m doubting whether we need separate names for storage, music, and videos. I think the future is convergence of all of three of these. We will store our data and then mark if we want it published publicly for sharing or identify a private group it is shared to. Google Documents explored this somewhat but more from a collaborative editing context. Convergence is going to happen with something similar to IPFS. So why not clone IPFS on our superior ledger (IPFS chose Ethereum) and improve it. Or collaborate with them, or how ever it works out. The point is convergence is coming. Stor can end up as the top sharing site for music and videos also, because users won’t have to reach for the credit card and the open protocol and commodification of storage providers means it will cannibalize all others via network effects. This is sort of what Storj and Filecoin are attempting but their plans aren’t broad and encompassing enough. Let’s go for it.
RE: Name YOUR decentralized social network?